would like them to tell us whether they are going to implement requested features or not. like are they ever going to release a ums firmware etc.

it would be good to know so i can decide whether to wait for new firmware or whether to save up for a another mp3 player with the features i want.

i would also like answers why they didnt include features the u10 like the better charging features.

is it because the u10 cost more thats why it can charge and be used at the same time and have both ums and mtp?

i dunno i just want some of my stupid questions answered. forgot to add that a changelog would also be nice

I can give you some educated guesses:

"like are they ever going to release a ums firmware etc."

I highly doubt it. I don't know if any contract was signed, but I do know that they partnered with MS when making the clix. Aside from the fact that it was never designed to have UMS, I think they would avoid doing it as 'good faith' even if there was no contractual obligation.

"u10 like the better charging features."

I suspect you are talking about having the ability to charge it at the same time you use it. If so, the reason was because they needed to pass USB-IF in order to pass P4S. USB-IF has a regulation that the device must be immediatly useable upon connection to the pc. I suspect this is because they do a ton of disconnects and reconnects during their testing and want it to be automated (pressing a button on the device each time is too much overhead). Whatever their motivation - it is a USB-IF regulation that they had to pass. Aside from this, as I mentioned above, they took input from MS who very well may have told them to get rid of the option. I've been in enough usability studies to know that anthing they can do to reduce the number of actions a user has to take is strongly considered.

Disclaimer: My opinions are my own. I can not speak for iriver past or future. While I am fairly confident that I am correct on both questions - only iriver can truely answer.

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I'm sure bill gates has better things to do, than promote a korean mp3 player for free . There had to be some kind of contract behind it.

Just upgrade to the clix2 man, solves all your problems . Sell it on ebay?

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MS did get something out of it: a launch partner for WMP11. I actually doubt there was a contract, on something like this NDA's are usually enough.

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By definition, an NDA is a contract

/runs

NDA's are almost like exchanging business cards. It's just something you have to do before you can sit down and talk.

Okay, you got me. How about if I ammend my statement to: No contract specifying what one party or the other must or must not do with their respective products.

I still may be wrong all togeather - I just have a strong feeling there was nothing beyond the normal "pleasantries" when one company talks to another...

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My NDA comment was intended as a joke to highlight how commonplace they have become. I take all legal agreements seriously and I would never consider breaking any NDA or other legal agreement which was signed by me or on my behalf. I do not condone nor encourage others to take any legally binding agreement lightly and furthermore would expect them to abide in full by all term and conditions set forth in the same. In addition I expect anyone entering into a legally binding contract such as, but not limited to, an NDA with myself or any party working on my behalf to abide in full by all term and conditions set forth in the same. Any breach of contract will be dealt with using the most severe terms laid out in that contract.

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que?

ohhh!

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ROFL @ your comment Ted, and yet it is SO true. I remember when I did beta testing for ATi on Linux, I had to sign an NDA to not distribute the Beta drivers (amongst other things). I'm sure that Jeff has had to sign one in order to be able to get both the Clix2 he will put in the give away contest and the one he got for review and testing. I'm not sure, though if a themed site also needs to be under some sort of contract with the "parent" company (for the lack of a better term) even though the site may not be affiliated in any way to said company (like for this site and/or Mistic River).

k well i downloaded the firmware updater, but when i plug my clix in, the picture doesn't show up on the updater and so i can't continue with the installation

and also, ever since i formatted the device (because i would delete some things the normal way) the album art and pictures have been distorted, i've never had this problem before so why did it start now? and has anyone else experience this problem? tech support from iriver has been no help so i'm turning to u guys

1) Did you try removing all USB devices which show up as a storage volume? (You can use the safely eject hardware task bar icon to do it for internal devices).

2) Can you tell us how you formatted it? Also, in what way are the images distorted? Have you tried formatting it again?

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well i mean when i formatted it, i went under settings and hit formatted device to delete everything because for some reason when i went to delete some things that for some reason didn't work they didn't show up in the folder, and so i just decided to deleted everything. I've tried doing it again but it doesn't do nething

the pictures r brightly colored squares all jumbled together

I would try reloading the firmware. After you do so, use the device menu on the clix to format it again. (I have seen what you describe before, but for the life of me I can't remember what caused it. I'm 85% sure it had to do with database corruption.)

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I doubt it, expecially for smaller/newer sites. However since MR has grown heaps and is now an iRiver dealer, the situation may have changed.

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well i mean the problem is that i want to download the firmware, ut when i plug the clix in it doesn't show it on the downloading screen so i can't continue

it says there needs to be an internet connection, but we have roadrunner, so i thought we were connected all the time, but idk nemore

Forget the updater.

Grab the correct firmware from:
http://nyaochi.sakura.ne.jp/iriverupdate/
If you have a 2G clix, the correct versions are labeled "U10 Clix", the 4G firmware is just "Clix". The last three letters are the language (English is ENG).

After downloading the firmware, extract the HEX file from the zip.
Plug in your device.
Open My Computer
Open the Clix
WMP10: Open the data folder
WMP11: Open the root storage
Copy the hex file that you unzipped into this folder.
Unplug your device.

After the firmware update has completed, format your device.
Transfer your content back to it.

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